These are really great shorts and the liner makes them really comfortable. I am in between sizes and so I went bigger and need to use the draw string to keep them feeling snug. Only minor complaint is that the waist band rolls and folds in half easily when tied tightly. I am being nit picky though and will be buying more of these when I lean out a bit more and move down a size. 1stPhorm’s service is 1st rate!